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Posted on 27 December 2009 with categories: Anime Reviews, Kuchuu Buranko



There are a few things you must know about Kuchuu Buranko. It’s being directed by the director of Mononoke and Bake Neko, which were deep horror-mindscrews with deep stories and characters. Kuchuu Buranko, while you might think otherwise at first, is completely different.

It’s a series about psychology: a weird doctor and discusses 11 of his patients throughout its run. Instead of trying to surpass Mononoke in terms of depth, the creators decided to focus on something completely different: entertainment. The patients in this series really aren’t that complex: most suffer from some sort of Obsessive Compulsive disorder, and each conclusion often just requires them to realize one small thing. However, seeing this show explore their issues and struggles is where this series’ strength lies.

The characters in this serise don’t shine through their depth, but their simplicity. While they’re all exaggerated, they’re also down to earth. Just random people from all sorts of walks of life, and their problems are very easy to relate to. Especially in the second half of the series, where the creators take more and more chances, this results into a number of hilarious and charming situations.

While the depth in this series doesn’t come from the individual stories, it’s more layered when you look at the big picture. This series loves to put in easter eggs or references to past (and in some cases even future episodes), but the general message that it in the end wants to convey is genuine and yet simple.

Storytelling: 9/10 – Very entertaining and interesting.
Characters: 8/10 – Not deep, but fun and easy to relate to.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Unique art with great direction, though the actual animation is minimal
Setting: 8/10 – Lots of references to other episodes, nice moral.
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Ah, screw it. I originally started to follow the subs because I couldn’t pick up all of the details with just the raws, but I’ve gotten impatient now. Besides, this episode wasn’t really that difficult.

But boy, what an episode the creators decided to end this series with. You can see that the creators put their last bits of creativity here in the direction. I really liked it, and I’d rank this as my third favourite ending this season (after White Album and Aoi Bungaku). It’s basically a follow-up to the cellphone kid episode, where this time we see that his father also has issues.

It’s hard to describe exactly what was so good about this episode, and I think it was a combination of many things that created its charms. The way this episode completely broke away from the formula that it had previously built up, the weird tantrum scenes of this doctor inside the toilet. I also liked the characterization of that doctor for some reason. He’s very much one of those dads who is a workaholic and neglects his family, but the personality this episode gave him was a bit more than most of these stereotypes. And really, that’s the thing with Kuchuu Buranko: its characters don’t try to be unique or multi-sided, and yet they’re entertaining because they’re so down to earth.

As for the Christmas episode, well, the creators indeed stuffed the Christmas party into the final minutes of this episode. The morals at the end of this episode were a bit cheesy, but it’s also interesting how well the creators really managed to summarize this show with just three words: nobody is perfect. That really is Kuchuu Buranko in a nutshell. Whether you’re a student, journalist, writer, doctor or famous baseball player, everyone has something that he doesn’t like. And sure, in Kuchuu Buranko they were very exaggerated, but the series also tended to be spot-on at times.

As for the next Noitamina-show, it’s going to be another Nodame Cantabile. Because I’m searching for eight shows that are going to be interesting to blog, there’s a really good chance that I’m going to end up covering it, however my big worry for it is Chiaki Kon. With a show like this one, will she really be able to match the brilliance of Kenichi Kasai’s first season, or will it just be another quirky romantic comedy that, while nice to watch, isn’t anything special?
Rating: ** (Excellent)

Posted on 20 December 2009 with categories: Kuchuu Buranko



Now THIS really is this series at its best: a great sense of humour, a very fine selection of references to past episodes, it continues fleshing out this series’ themes in a rather clever way, and it actually has a really good story with a great main character this time. It’s really here where this show makes use of its formula that it’s built up over the past few episodes, and gives it a very interesting and creative twist.

It’s interesting how in this episode, the lead character didn’t turn into an animal. Or to be more specific: he didn’t need to be turned into an animal because he already had taken on a strange form: that of his 30-year-old self. Throughout the entire episode, we just see this version of him. There are quite a few points at which things don’t really make much sense this way: how can such a young person be president of a country, why does he have flashbacks of the construction of Tokyo Tower and why is Irabu suggesting retirement to him at that kind of age…?

It was definitely a nice twist, and out of all the Kuchuu Buranko lead characters, the personality of this guy ranges among the most colourful. With him, you can really see his development in a way that isn’t superficial, cheesy or rushed, but it’s really genuine.

And I’m actually pretty curious to see what the creators have planned for that final episode. Especially with this kind of a series, you can really put anything there. Considering that it airs at Christmas Eve in Japan, not to mention that the creators have been dropping countless of Christmas hints for the past few episodes, I really can see them doing a Christmas-themed ending. Pretty heart-warming for the holidays, if this turns out to be true.
Rating: ** (Excellent)

Posted on 14 December 2009 with categories: Kuchuu Buranko



At this point, it’s pretty clear what the general message is that this series wants to convey: nobody is perfect, not even your role models. So instead of trying to be perfect, you should try to live with who and what you are. Overall, these past nine episodes did a good job in showing the ins and outs of this: from the more extreme to the less extreme ones: you should just accept what you have to live with your entire life. overall, pretty well done, if I say so myself.

The general message that I got out of this particular episode however, is something completely different: Japanese TV-shows are weird. To think that people are actually willing to put morons on the screen who do nothing but smile cheesily over and over. And I thought Dutch TV was bad…

I’m surprised how little crossovers this episode had, though. Where the previous episodes threw references with heaps at the time, I don’t think that I spotted any reference to a past episode in this episode other than the usual bucket of syringes. I think that because of that, and how I had absolutely no interest in the subject material this time (child stars and variety-shows… *yuch*) that it disappointed a bit compared to the previous ones.
Rating: (Enjoyable)

Posted on 5 December 2009 with categories: Kuchuu Buranko



Remember that episode in which that kid stood amongst a crowd that was looking at some sort of fight going on? Yeah, this episode explains the reason behind it: a reporter with an out of control obsessive compulsive disorder was attacking a homeless guy for groping school girls. Makes sense. :P

But yeah, this episode showed yet again that the psychology is just a vehicle to this show’s real purpose: entertainment. This really turned out to be a show that makes fun of obsessive compulsive disorders, but it does it in such a way that it also becomes a bit relatable. And really, this series works great as a comedy: that chase scene was really hilarious in its over-the-topness.

And yet, this episode actually had quite an interesting message as well, the fact that not every psychological ailment can be cured. Here we have a guy who can do his research, and thinks that for every ailment there’s a sure-fire cure. In the end though, he just ends up living with his ailment. I think that this was actually one of the more powerful endings that we’ve seen in this series yet.

I’m actually pretty curious to what this show has in store for its final episode. With the way that it keeps referencing previous episodes, there is a possibility for it to take this to a next level at the end.

At this point, I’m pretty sure of how I’d rank this year’s Noitamina-series:
4) Eden of the East
3) Kuchuu Buranko
2) Genji Monogatari Sennenki
1) Tokyo Magnitude 8.0

It’s overall been a great year for this timeslot, full of daring concepts and creative ideas. Sure, some series didn’t go as well as planned (Eden of the East… I still believe that it was poorly balanced), but you can see that a lot of time an effort has been put in every single one of them.
Rating: ** (Excellent)

Posted on 2 December 2009 with categories: Kuchuu Buranko



Apologies for the lateness of this post; the very slow subs really threw me off. In any case, this yet again was an episode that was more than worth it. I really like how this series continues to get more daring with every passing episode, it has a very nice effect of something spiralling out of control. This episode was hilarious, and while not the deepest one it still had a fun and interesting protagonist to work with: a yakuza who can’t stand pointy objects.

At this point, you can also see that the creators have loads of fun with the cross-references to past episodes. Bando returns, and heck: we even saw this episode’s protagonist in one of the previous episodes if I’m not mistaken. This explains that the ski glasses wasn’t just a random stylistic choice, but the guy actually had a reason for it: experimenting whether or not that would help him cure his fears.

This show is over the top, but in a good way. The fun in this series comes from the characters, and not necessarily the psychology: it merely fits a supporting purpose in this series. I only didn’t like that eventual part in which the rival yakuza guy turns out to also have an OCD. It’s just cheesy.

We also learn that most of Irabu’s appearances next to his patients are in fact in a flashback, and he doesn’t always accompany his clients like what was previously suggested. Only in the scenes in which he directly interacted with other people are the parts in which he went out of his office. At other times, he’s simply inside the client’s story, commenting on what happened.
Rating: ** (Excellent)

Posted on 21 November 2009 with categories: Kuchuu Buranko



Whoa, this series has really gotten significantly better in the past couple of episode. It’s hard to imagine that the first few episodes were a bunch of depthless guys, because this episode had a really good main character to play with. There’s something with teenagers making an appearance in otherwise adult shows: in teenaged series they’re often annoying, but this episode had definitely its charms.

A teenager addicted to cell phones. It’s something very typical of teenagers, and the start of this episode had something sadistic, in which both Irabu, as the nurse as his classmates started picking on him. And yet, this episode did a wonderful job of making me feel sorry for this guy. The ending was really well written: there’s no forced climax, but instead it made perfect sense.

The ending would have happened as well if the guy didn’t pay a visit to Irabu, but Irabu’s addition had a very nice effect on the episode, the way in which he, after he realized that his friends weren’t who he thought he were, they simply invited him with all of the other patients. It’s an interesting story about a loner trying to fit in, yet trying way too hard in the process. In fact, his frustrations which seemed to cause his cell phone addiction (what if he got left behind by them?) only caused a distance between them.

And to a surprise, this episode continued to flesh out Irabu and the nurse, surprisingly enough. Especially that nurse is quite unexpected: I really thought that she was going to be a simple plot device. Also, this episode had quite a few of references to other episodes: there were actually quite a few cameos from previous episodes, and I also like the subtle part at which the theme song is played, and the lead character claims to really like the “drama” it’s based on. Yeah, right. ;)
Rating: ** (Excellent)

Posted on 14 November 2009 with categories: Kuchuu Buranko



Definitely the best episode of Kuchuu Buranko yet. It’s the kind of episode that for me made up for all of the annoying and depth-less parts of this series. It’s one of those episodes that’s awesome to watch in the way that it played around with its lead characters.

I’m not sure whether the rest of the series can do the same, because this episode did also give Irabu an actual life. I mean, that’s something I never saw coming: I thought that he was like the medicine seller. A guy without any past, background or identity, whose only purpose seemed to be solving mysteries. This episode however shows Irabu during a college reunion, and some of his earlier friends, who all went to become doctors or other medical staff. Pretty interesting to see what this guy’s friends were like.

Anyway, the patient in this episode is one of these former friends. He’s a doctor who also knows a thing or two about psychology. He’s got another form of OCD. When I found out about this, I feared that this would be much of the same again, but I was proven wrong: this guy keeps imagining how he’s going to cause trouble. What follows is a crazy episodes as he tries to give in to his urges by actually carrying them out. His stepfather (who seems to be the cause of his frustrations)’s wig was utterly hilarious.

Oh, and the Banto references also rocked. This is what I mean by connecting the characters of the different stories: the lead character is a huge baseball fan, and Banto is his favourite player. Nice touch.

Setting aside the depth, I also kind-of like the realistic portrayal of the characters in this series: all characters featured so far are adults just plucked from society: they’ve got lives, careers and a family. It’s strangely refreshing in anime in which 95% of all characters are either students or warriors (or involved in some other kind of job that involves fighting).
Rating: *** (Awesome)

Posted on 7 November 2009 with categories: Kuchuu Buranko



This time: a baseball player. It’s interesting how every episode of Kuchuu Buranko deals with the media of some sort. This formulaic format limits creativity: unlike Aoi Bungaku the variety isn’t really this series’ strong point. Instead, what it needs to do is make the whole series greater than the sum of its parts. The best example of how this is done right is Jigoku Shoujo. At this point, it’s a bit too early whether Kuchuu Buranko will be the same but there’s an actual good chance that it will pull this off.

What I mean by that is the following: this episode was very similar to the previous one: a writerbaseball player is very popular, however he experiences psychological problems off of it. Parallels are drawn between him and a different writerbaseball player. Irabu meanwhile tries to take up writingplaying catch-ball and he eventually gets cured by realizing that he was wrong in his stereotypical assumptions.

After four episodes, I finally realize that the similarities of the stories isn’t lazy scriptwriting, but instead meant to be that way. This episode wasn’t meant to stand out with its story, but rather with the subtle difference with the previous story. Ignoring the second episode, this series has been about people who are very successful at what they do, but just have a problem as they’re at the height of their popularity. It could be failing to cooperate, or simply forgetting the past. They’re so focused on the right now that they sometimes forget what they already accomplished.

The big difference between this series and Mononoke: Mononoke’s individual series had a lot of depth, but they were straightforward and standalone. Kuchuu Buranko on the other hand isn’t that deep with its individual cases, however they have overlap, they’re not straightforward at all. There are two ways in which you can watch it: just watch an episode brainlessly, and end up with a rather boring series about a bunch of depth-less people, or you could try to look behind the exterior, and try and find connections and hidden meanings. And that’s why I like this series.

Also, is it me or did that kid have a Bake Neko t-shirt?
Rating: * (Good)

Posted on 31 October 2009 with categories: Kuchuu Buranko



Ah, we get a look into the authors of cheap romance novels. Again, it had a very simple conclusion: just start writing good novels! The fun in this episode yet again came from exploring the life and carreer of this guy.

As I’m also somewhat a writer, I can identify with him a bit: so you’ve written a masterpiece. Then what? You’re popular as hell thanks to your hard work. Now what? I can understand how this guy would eventually fall into a habit of writing stuff that sells good, yet are utterly crappy and formulaic. For a starting author, this means complete suicide, however an already famous author can pull this off and still sell items.

While I’ve never written a masterpiece myself, I do recognize how you can be incredibly passionate about something when you first start out. If you happen to know the right techniques, then despite your lack of experience you can put down an incredible piece of work.

This episode was all about getting in the right mindset. It’s not about writer’s block; this guy was very able to churn out novels if you ignore his vomiting problem. Instead, it was focused on getting him from writing half-assedly to passionately. And that’s something I do recognize from my own writing, especially with my episodic reviews: the more passionately I write abot an episode (whether it was good or bad), the better that entry is usually going to be.

… and yeah, you could probably guess that this wasn’t such a passionately written entry. -_-
Rating: * (Good)

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Kaiser-Eoghan
Maybe that'd be cheesy or something but they manage to form new friendship/families which allow them to put behind what they lost.
Amagi
I like semi-episodical series that have an episodical plot and a golden thread at the same time, the latter usually being more subtile or like a subplot and each episodical adventure gives the audience a few new hints or informations about the setting, characters or main plot.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wouldn't even mind a drama driven otherworld story about a depressed person trying to move on and the new world actually helping them move past that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
So how about my don-quixhote anime Japan =)
Kaiser-Eoghan
But at the same time there's a bunch of serious stuff, but its not clashing with the lighthearted stuff badly.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My favourite type of adventure story though are the ones where its more about the journey and hangout, sometimes the story appears here and there. And its usually centred around three goofballs with alot of chemistry.
Amagi
Sadly there never is any culture clash or culture shock either, speaking of the LN/game mechanic isekai here. The isekai people are just like the people of nowadays Japan but with swords and magic, basically. Maybe a few rituals at best.
Amagi
An isekai should be like King of Thorns despite KoT not being an actual isekai. But awakening in another world, not understanding anything, exploring, mysteries and slowly piecing things together that make the MC understand the logic of that new world a bit better while trying to integrate into the foreign culture.
Amagi
@Kaiser/Anon: I feel like that too. I love explore and isekai would be perfect for exploration and yet it's always about the MC finding his place as soon as he got teleported, he finds his crew, friends, house, power and so on.
Amagi
@Anon: You're right I watched a few scenes, the dub actually fits pretty well to Nanbaka. The series itselfs is too insane for me I guess.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Lack of journey, focuses too much on harem/romcom bits.
Amagi
I have yet to watch Voltron. The animation looks somewhat weird to me but everything else I heard about it so far sounds pretty good.
Lenlo
I welcome the essays Kaiser! Sakaki is a much more complex character than I expected, and Animosh is right that it doesnt justify his actions. I didnt mean to imply that. I do think however that Sakaki is not wrong to be angry. He is just directing it at the wrong person.
Anonymous3316315
@Kaiser-Eoghan - In what sense? In that it isn't a journey? A quest? A series of trials? The hunt of ancient treasure? Or whatever dimension hoping happens in Milk Closet?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: Well said about Sakaki's character and I agree with you on it. Saves me writing an essay response now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Tangent, but I want to say something, one of the most annoying things about LNs is when they do the isekai thing, the other world almost never feels like an adventure.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I honestly wouldn't complain if it was full blown yuri or shoujo-ai.
Anonymous3316315
@Kaiser-Eoghan - A lot of series have hard ship baiting. Voltron, She Ra, Seraph of the End, Korra (which at the last second they did it). I know sometimes is a stretch like Frodo and Sam in LotR or Venom and Eddie. But other times it's that relationship in everything but name.
Kaiser-Eoghan
People seem to play up the shoujo-ai thing in Euphonium.
Anonymous3316315
@Amagi - Nanbaka has a good English dub. They knew the delivery had to be as hammy as possible.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm looking forward to those Gundam NT films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I didn't finish violet evergarden nor did I watch tsurune. In the priors case, that was something I would have seen myself liking maybe 10 years ago.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I liked Koe no kitachi aswell.
Kaiser-Eoghan
We can call it Racing Lads.
Amagi
Okay thanks. I can deal with slow pacing as long as there is an atmosphere or good character story.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Free and kaze cross over WHEN!
Kaiser-Eoghan
I liked how scaled back it was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I think you were asking about the new kyoani movie earlier? I can't remember if I posted about it on here what I thought, but I actually liked it more than the main Euphonium series, it stood out in its adherence to using body language, silence and movements moreso than dialogue while giving me a coming of age movie I had been asking for. Though some won't like the glacial pacing
Amagi
KazeGa is pretty damn good. It kinda feels like it actually is what Kyoani is always trying to do when they produce sport series with a male cast that are half comedy half drama. But while I often like some aspects of Kyoani shows (like the setting and themes of VEG), I never like the execution, save from the looks of course that are awesome but don't help making the content any better.
Amagi
*above
Amagi
@SuperMario: IIRC mosts Steven Universe VAs are actual singers so they should be a level about typical VAs anyway. Not sure who's voice acting for RWBY.
Amagi
But since I watch everything seasonally subs are faster and I usually don't rewatch series, otherwise a rewatch could be a good reason to watch the dubs for the second time.
Amagi
At least eng dubs got way better in general over the yers. Probably because anime is more mainstream now. Maybe I would like many of them more if I started with the dub.
SuperMario
Maybe it’s a translation issue, by that I mean usually some nuance from the native language is lost in translation. That issue can be alright if it subs, but when saying it out loud it becomes unnatural?
Amagi
Japanese VAs also talk a lot about their characters and give interviews about them, including their own interpretations or head canon stuff. Not sure if western VAs of Japanese shows do that too.
Amagi
Instead when it's a foreign show there is nothing to do but to memorize the finished lines and everything is already set in stone, so you are 100% passive and can't really view it as your or your team's work.
Amagi
I often heard that western VAs thought up some ideas that were integrated into the script. Not sure if that's the case for most cartoons of if these were exceptions, but it could be a hint that VAs are way more involved into a show and the development of their characters when it is a native show, it's kinda logical.
Amagi
Yeah, native stuff is usually better.
SuperMario
Then again, I enjoy the English VA of western cartoon like RWBY or Steven Universe so I guess it’s just a matter of original intended language for me
SuperMario
Well, I’m not a fan of dubbing either. Not that much of a dub-hater but I remember watching Monster and Cowboy Bebop in english dub before I had to switch back to Japanese voice midway through
Amagi
Still living ones I mean. But as said actual movies are usually well dubbed, so I guess it depends on how much money something generates.
Amagi
I knew a bunch of old ones but they're all dead by now. Know maybe three or so with name and face (and often don't even recognize them in movies) and another 6-10 by name only.
Amagi
@Kaiser: To be honest I never know any actors no matter how well known they are.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Is it awkward hearing a famous actor you associate too much with a certain role, voicing an anime character?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also, what is the stance on professional well known film actors voicing anime movie dubs?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now....I'm sure no-one likes the animax or hong-kong English dubs =)
Kaiser-Eoghan
On fandubs, the English voice actress for Madoka Kaname was originally a youtube fandubber. Also A fandub of happy sugar lifes first episode exists.
Amagi
Didn't know that exists. Fandubbers. Hm.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As in there are Russian fandubbers doing this.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Because I have to really really dig for the obscure stuff I watch, sometimes I end up accidently downloading Fandubs of these films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I suppose in the case of the hentai dubbing example, part of it and I don't watch this to come off as rascist, but the noises the Japanese voice actors make....
Amagi
When I hear "really bad dubs" it always reminds me of these old USSR dubs where one guy voices all characters.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Even though its a semi-dead language, I am actually wondering what an anime would sound like dubbed in Irish.
Amagi
I usually also always prefer the original language with dub. Luckily, indie production movies and movies that aren't from America are often shown subbed here. Probably because it's just less work since these movies don't make much money.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although as I said 1960s dubs are horrible.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can't watch live action films English dubbed, especially European ones.
Amagi
@Kaiser: Good question. If there are anime where susb could actually hinder immersion. Never really thought about this.
Amagi
I mean life action movies have almost always excellent dubs no matter with western language. It's just that anime were kinda negleted for a long time. I guess Netflix dubs for anime are way better than anime dubs years ago. Especially for their original series. Watched them with subs though so not sure.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now that brings that something else, if I was to watch a hentai anime or something sensual, I might actual find it more connectable if it was in my own language.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I live in a world where neither I nor Aidan were permitted to dub the voice of the Lancer servant in fate.
Animosh
@Kaiser: yeah, I read that in the "About Our Site" thingy. It's a shame he's no longer around.
Amagi
@Kaiser: That porn thing is actually a good idea.
Amagi
Our dubs are usually pretty bad though. And I hate how they're always using the same few VAs. Most of them don't have any qualifications or anything, they're not even actors. Just some random dudes that applied for the job and you can really notice that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now heres a thing....there have been cases where hentai anime has been English dubbed using porn actors.
Amagi
@Kaiser: For whatever reason there is no Ger dub for Monster, which is a wasted opportunity.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Utaprince is the only non-shit one by virtue of being absolutely shit.
Amagi
@Kaiser: never heard that before but that sounds right. I was never sure if the inability to listen without starting to daydream was an autistical thing or coincidence. I never have any concentration problems with written stuff, even if it's boring.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I can't wait for people to assume the fruits basket remake is an otome VN adaption when it airs.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: Just like psgels.
Amagi
@Kaiser: Funny enough those series always sell better too. Tiger and Bunny had a lot of fujo fans and non-fujo female fans that bought it whereas otome sell rather badly afaik. And the great seeling bishiboys-onlys are usually adaption of games that sell well for already having a big fanbase or because the BDs contain some game code. Like with Grandblue and the likes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I've heard that even when watching films in our own languages, we autistic people have an easier time watching stuff in our own language when subtitles in our own language are turned on.
Animosh
@Kaiser: I'm Dutch, actually! Although I live somewhere else in Europe right now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I probably typed way too much so its better I say something short such as: I'm on the middle ground.
Amagi
Watched it mainly on Japanese again but in that case it was really just due to my listening/concentration problem.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I suppose ambiguous bromances are a form of male fanservice.
Amagi
@Kaiser: I agree that the Dandy dub was one of the few good examples I know. The series felt quite western too.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: Somewhere in my head for some reason I thought you were American.
Amagi
The characters themselves also seem worse for most of the time. Maybe because there are way more pandering anime for males, so you have to be at least somewhat creative there whereas otome shows are rather rare. The fans of that will buy it no matter how bad it is.
Animosh
And in some cases dubs are clearly the better option for me. For example, I've always watched FLCL dubbed because of how much is happening on screen. But I'm so used to reading subs now that it almost never ruins my immersion in a series. Perks of being a non-native speaker I guess. I've grown up with subs.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now...I wonder if Italian dubs for gunslinger girl exist, or a French dub of Chevalier d'eon or rose of versaille.
Amagi
@Kaiser: Yeah. Bishounen shows seem to be cheaper in general. Aidan mentioned that a lot of times and I agree. It's not a preference thing (IMO). Otome and mass bishounen shows seem to be generally worse than normal harem/idol stuff.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Sometimes a western setting a dub might work better for me.
Amagi
When Japanese was a completely foreign language to me. But the more I understood Japanese the more I prefered the original VAs. I remember that I liked the western dubs of Noir back then and when I listened to them again 10 years later I was horrified.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: A good example is that both in English and Japanese, bishounen shows don't have good voice acting.
Animosh
I think it's partly just a matter of what you're used to though. I grew up with the English dub of DBZ, and as a result I just can't stand Goku's old lady voice.
Amagi
@Aidan: Regarding the not-understanding theory I think the main reason for why I don't believe this that I was actually fine with western dubs at the beginning - around 2003 or so.
Amagi
@Kaiser: Could be. Maybe because people tend to deepen their voice when they're bored or something. So you don't notice it that much when there is a higher voice. I can't remember any female VA that sounded boring. Maybe bad, but not bored
Animosh
I tend to prefer subs too. Other than the quality of voice acting I think it can also help with suspension of disbelief. When characters speak English it becomes a lot harder to ignore how silly or cartoonish their lines can be. I have the same issue with live action adaptations. It just ruins suspension of disbelief for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: And in case there's an odd accent in there somewhere.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Now, heres something interesting, for English language films I turn on English language subtitles, not out of hearing issues, but so I can remember names better and the dialogue sinks in better.
Amagi
The listening problem makes it impossible for me to watch youtube stuff too unless the videos are less then 5 minutes long. I am just unable to halt my own thoughts so my mind always drifts away and I miss half of the things people say.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also as a side note, does anyone else notice that with male voice actors, it can be more easier to pinpoint when they are disinterested in the material?
Kaiser-Eoghan
My preference for watching anime when marathoning, is to switch back and forth between languages. I’ll watch episode 1 in Japanese, the second in English, third in Japanese, repeat that process until I finish the show.
It gives me more to talk about and do compare and contrastings if I were to ever do up a review of my own.
Kaiser-Eoghan
On the subject of Japanese and English voice actors, I think in both cases, while I like the current pool of actors, new blood on both sides is something I wish would happen.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Granted I still watch them in Italian, because those old 60s English dubs are horrendous.
Do I believe that screenings should offer both dubbed and subtitled screenings from anime films, yes? For the variety.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Sometimes as I said, an English voice actor can successfully camp up the material when its camp originally and that’s an improvement.
I watch A LOT of old martial arts films from the 60s and Eurocop films, all of them, especially the Italian ones, even if you watch them in Italian are post production dubbed.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Some dubs actually make the effort to get the accents right such as Hellsing and Baccano.
I have no problems reading subtitles (unless in some cases of very very polemical dialectical French political rant Marxist films but in that case I can always pause/rewind).
Animation allows for an easier, more comfortable dubbing process in any language due to being able to get the lip syncing right.
Kaiser-Eoghan
This is my general view on dubbing: I do not approve of censorship or elaborate changes in general to the original material.
When it comes to dubs for animated media, the older ones are generally not professional, but can be amusing, in anime cases I believe that since those 90s dubs, there have been improvements.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: The only advantage Hellsings tv version has over the ova is the music.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: They actual got British accents for it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think if you're not watching something twice, then you've not watched it.
Amagi
@Kaiser: Was Hellsing especially good or bad? I can only vaguely remember the series. Think I never finished it. I am a fan of the OVA though.
Amagi
Reading is just easier than listen. It's one of the reasons why I watch way more anime than life action which is usually dubbed and therefore way harder to follow for me.
Amagi
Aside from that I think I just prefer subs on a personal level since I have a problem concentrating when it's about listening. Never could do that in university either and always read that stuff up in books.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I don't get to watch Hellsing dubbed in German so I'm sad now.
Amagi
If you don't believe me you have to listen to Steins;Gate, it's terrible. Not saying that all are bad though. But the big mayority and the few good ones are uninteresting since you watched the anime with the original voices earlier so it never makes sense to switch since you're already associating the characterse with the JP voices.
Amagi
@Aidan: Not sure if it's really the language alone. Anime dubs of languages I barely understand or don't understand at all are usually weaker too. It's just that Japanese VA are usually profs, some of them with a pretty good voice range, whereas western dubbers are random people. At least it's that way in Germany, English dubs are usuall better than German ones but weaker than Japanese.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I wouldn't consider that a myth. I genuinely get more immersed in anime watching it dubbed than subbed. I feel that regardless on how fast you get at reading subtitles you still miss things on screen and it's a constant reminder on screen stopping a show from drawing you in as much as it could.
Anonymous3315996
I think the experience japanese VAs have gives them advantage over other dubs. But I ask you. There's a myth I've heard that you put more attention to what you're watching if you're not reading subs. Wouldn't a good dub be the better way to watch something than reading the sub? I know some series have lacking dub, but the ones that aren't, wouldn't that be the better way to watch it?
Anonymous3315996
@Amagi - I can't relate since I think that 2 -1 latin american dubs are better than the english ones. I don't know why in english it sounds to me, more childish.
AidanAK47
Honestly it's a dick move assuming that English voice actors don't put in the same level of effort as Japanese voice actors because they most certainly do and having to deal with syncing lips to the animation on top of that.
AidanAK47
You mention that you couldn't like the Steins;Gate dub from watching a clip but did you only just watch a clip? Because a clip isn't enough to truly judge and when you are used to the japanese voice. Even I had to climatise myself a bit to the Fate/zero dub. In regards to the Steins;Gate dub, Mayuri and Daru's english voice actors are massive improvements compared to their Japanese counterparts.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Ugh..not this crap. Honestly Amagi I hear this stuff a lot about dubs and quite frankly, it's bull. I still hold the opinion than if someone doesn't know Japanese then they cannot truly judge Japanese voice acting and Dubs often get the short end of the stick because they can be held to higher scrutiny.
Amagi
Has anybody here watched that Kyoani movie? Seems like it's getting quite a lot of praise. Haven't watched the main series but it seems to be some spin-off solo.
Amagi
At least I am looking forward to the Tanya movie. Isn't a game isekai though.
Amagi
Guess I wait and see what others say about the series at the end.
Amagi
*recognize - also I don't know if I should watch ep2 of SHield Hero. 1 was meh but better than usual isekai, but I fear that everything past that will be run-of-the-mill again and just be a different flavor of said run-of-the-mill.
Amagi
What I also dislike is that I always notice the same people speaking. There are a few VAs I regonize in almost every dub trailer I watch.
Amagi
Whenever someone's telling me that a specific movie has actually good dub it's always terrible nonetheless. A friend even said S;G had a good Eng dub and I couldn't even finish the clip he linked me.
Amagi
Kinda hate it when cinema screenings of anime movies are dub only, I hate anime dubs with a passion. I mean dubs are bad in general but anime dubs are particularly bad because western VAs just don't have the same level of proficiency as Japanese VAs for whom the voicing of anime is actually their main job, whereas they choose some actors or nobodies for western anime releases.
Vonter
Now that I think about it. In fiction there are some things that feel like they never happen. Like a character calling the cops when something bad is happening, and in regards to accusations of rape, I think we don't get legit ones of a character reporting that mistreatment, we mainly know as an audience.
Vonter
They're sharpening their knives for that. I it's mostly because in the manga that's the character that has the crazy faces. And ironically the characters didn't seem fazed by her from what I remember.
Kaiser-Eoghan
That was my joke attempt to start an internet war.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wonder if people will start calling the one black character in promised neverland an issue or too stereotypical looking.
Vonter
In regards to the reactions of the framing of the MC, I do get we haven't been able to talk about that topic well. But I don't see the issue if we know it didn't happen. Will a framing for murder could have been better?
Lenlo
I think the slave falling for him is going to be pretty bleh, but I do enjoy how willing he is to make use of the slave obedience. He was looking for help first, friend second. So I like that he isn't mr.perfect "oh woe is me". He's an ass in a world of ass holes.
Vonter
Sometimes I wonder why some series get more criticism than others for such things. In this case mainly because I wasn't aware this was a popular series.
Vonter
Overlord also has this, in that case played for laughs, since it's an annoyance for the MC and his character type has been restrained any desire for the flesh.
Vonter
I think in both here and the other Isekai with slaves. I think the self insertion is more problematic than the execution. Heck surprisingly in the other slave isekai the MC never pressured the other two to do anything (yet the script demands they fall for him). I mean, Isekai is wishfulfillment but I think authors could be more creative in how they make their characters develop.
Vonter
So I watched the first episodes of Shield Hero and I'm mixed. Like with Kotoura-san I found kinda mean spirited the first episode. It's kinda like the origin story of a comic book villain. And the good part I found was the relationship with his companion, aside from Steven Universe, I don't see often the male character being a supporter in combat while the heroine having to be the attacker.
Lenlo
Oooooooh shit. Kaze Fui was fantastic this week. How can a show about running be this. Damn. Good.
Anonymous3313597
Sadly for us, it seems the latin spanish dub is not good. For some reason the episode didn't had background music. It's weird since even bad dubs enhance a comedy. Mahoutsukai was also dubbed in spanish and that one felt very good (I'll not watch it all again but I could see how they do the good parts).
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think when the original material is hammy and the dub actors understand that and play it up, thats a good idea to go by.
AidanAK47
Oh the KonoSuba dub is out. Neat. Excuse for a rewatch.
Lenlo
That was an interesting comparison. Cool to see how far anime has come.
Lenlo
I cant wait to watch Kaze Fui tonight to answer those questions Kazier!
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Someone has done a comparison video for Dororo for a scene in the new one, comparing it with the old one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j38anJY3BtA
Kaiser-Eoghan
Maybe some people found the flashback scenes too dramatic, but I didn't mind, they worked for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo:One thing that has come to mind, how would it go if he encountered the coach again, but in the present?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo:I also liked how the flashback was done in a grainy looking style.
If I found someone who was finding it hard to get into this show, I think that this episode would win them over and it’s the episode I found myself feeling the most.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Episode 13 of Kaze ga tsuyoku is the fitting and perfect culmination of what has come before it and all is now essentially out on the table dramatically and all the better for it because of how well this series has built itself up.
Animosh
In essence it is still a battle shounen though: even if the fights always have narrative weight (it's not just fighting for the sake of fighting), the characters are to a significant extent developed through fights. So if that's not your thing it might be a hard sell even with its amazing animation and sympathetic cast.
Animosh
@Lenlo/Kaiser: the problem with Mob though is that its first two episodes are by far the worst of the series. So if you give it a try you should watch at least until the third episode, and possibly even episode 4/5 (since it's the first really good arc of the series imo).
Animosh
Yeah, it must be tough to blog three shows in the span of two days, especially with how long your posts tend to be. I find it hard enough already just to keep up with everything!
Lenlo
Ugh. Didnt get to Kaze Fui tonight. A shame. This whole Dororo/MobPsycho then Kaze Fui air schedule is gonna be a pain. You can expect Kaze Fui's maybe... Thurs? Not sure yet. Busy night
Kaiser-Eoghan
*newer not old
Kaiser-Eoghan
Some additional things I always notice in certain things, sometimes in these old medieval films or shows, in the American ones the characters occassionally don't look earthy enough.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Koyomi from clannad i mean
Kaiser-Eoghan
Somewhere in my head Koyomi is this weird anime take on an autist.
Amagi
All she did what stupid, but everyone was saying that she was a genius that would probably soon develope the theory of eversthing so it must be real even if she's only ever smart when the plots needs her to do some sudden computer hack or something.
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